US Nobel sweep points to brain drain
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Cash-rich US researchers have again dominated this year's Nobel awards, but it seems identifying the nationality of laureates is not an exact science, and change may be on the way.
On the face of things, the United States would top an Olympic-style medals table of Nobel prize wins. Eleven of this year's 13 laureates are citizens of the United States, winning five of the six Nobel awards up for grabs.
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According to research from Britain's University of Warwick, published last January, scientific migration is common, and vastly beneficial to the United States.
"Nearly half of the world's most-cited physicists work outside their country of birth," the study said.
A survey of 158 of the most highly cited physicists showed systematic migration to nations with large research and development spending, most notably the United States.
"At birth, 29.7 percent of physicists are in the USA. This increases to 43.4 percent at first degree, to 55.1 percent at PhD, and to 67.1 percent presently," the report said.
"In 1987-2006, for example, five out of fourteen of all UK-educated laureates had moved to the USA by the time they won the Nobel prize."
Still, the United States can claim to have forged the institutes and universities that attract top-flight researchers for award-winning research.
According to State Department figures, every year the United States issues over 35,000 visas for exceptional scientists and others who flock to well-funded institutes.
But the real key to US Nobel dominance, according to Roger Geiger, a professor of education at Pennsylvania State University, is cash -- particularly the massive influx of cash to the US education system after World War II.
"We were funding research when others were not, or when others could not," he said pointing to post-war Europe's economic malaise. That advantage has stuck.
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노벨상 수상자 13명 중 11명이 미국 국적, 저명한 과학자들 중 절반이 미국으로 향하고 있다는데요.  이곳에서도 많이 언급되었지만 역시 연구하기 위해선 cash가 절실하다는 것이군요.  
앞으로 중국과 EU가 부상하고 일극체제에서 다극체제로 변화해 간다지만 학문 분야에서의 미국 독주 현상이 변화하려면 훨씬 많은 시간이 필요하겠죠? 리서치라는 게 몇 년 투자한다고 반드시 결과가 나오는 것도 아니니까요.
On the face of things, the United States would top an Olympic-style medals table of Nobel prize wins. Eleven of this year's 13 laureates are citizens of the United States, winning five of the six Nobel awards up for grabs.
...
According to research from Britain's University of Warwick, published last January, scientific migration is common, and vastly beneficial to the United States.
"Nearly half of the world's most-cited physicists work outside their country of birth," the study said.
A survey of 158 of the most highly cited physicists showed systematic migration to nations with large research and development spending, most notably the United States.
"At birth, 29.7 percent of physicists are in the USA. This increases to 43.4 percent at first degree, to 55.1 percent at PhD, and to 67.1 percent presently," the report said.
"In 1987-2006, for example, five out of fourteen of all UK-educated laureates had moved to the USA by the time they won the Nobel prize."
Still, the United States can claim to have forged the institutes and universities that attract top-flight researchers for award-winning research.
According to State Department figures, every year the United States issues over 35,000 visas for exceptional scientists and others who flock to well-funded institutes.
But the real key to US Nobel dominance, according to Roger Geiger, a professor of education at Pennsylvania State University, is cash -- particularly the massive influx of cash to the US education system after World War II.
"We were funding research when others were not, or when others could not," he said pointing to post-war Europe's economic malaise. That advantage has stuck.
...
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hGRBNyGRJ5bvVd6rxD88IEUGNmXw
노벨상 수상자 13명 중 11명이 미국 국적, 저명한 과학자들 중 절반이 미국으로 향하고 있다는데요.  이곳에서도 많이 언급되었지만 역시 연구하기 위해선 cash가 절실하다는 것이군요.  
앞으로 중국과 EU가 부상하고 일극체제에서 다극체제로 변화해 간다지만 학문 분야에서의 미국 독주 현상이 변화하려면 훨씬 많은 시간이 필요하겠죠? 리서치라는 게 몇 년 투자한다고 반드시 결과가 나오는 것도 아니니까요.
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실속을 따져 보면, 좀 다른 결과가 나올거에요.
첨단 장비들 (실험을 하려면, 장비가 있어야죠)을 미국에서 만드는거 찾는게 어렵습니다. 고급 기술이 필요하는 상용제품들도 미국에서 만드는 거 찾기가 어렵죠.
아이디어로 어떻게 돈 만든다는 자세로 좋게 해석할 수 있겠지만, 그것도 손에 잡히는게 있을때 나오는 거죠.
브레인 드레인은 맞는데, 그게 자기가 못먹는 거 남도 못먹게 일단 붙잡아 두는 건지도 모릅니다. 마치 땅사모들이 이공인들 밀어내어 버리는 그런 상황이나 같은 맥락이죠.
지금 미국의 지도자들이 어찌 구조조정을 해볼려고 머리를 굴려도 마땅히 밀어줄 산업이 보이지 않습니다. 이거 고민거리이죠. 좀 괜찮아 보이는 기술들은 다 외국에 있는 상황입니다. 미국에서 시장을 열면 오히려 돈 버는 쪽은 외국이라는 딜레마에 빠져있어요. -
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미국이.. 고수익 사업을 너무쫓아가다가,,
기본 베이스를 너무 많이 잃어버렸어요..
라곤 하지만,
노벨상 수상자들 끌어올수록,
졸업장 장사는 확실하게 되겠군요.
요즘 전 세계에 캠퍼스 체인점들 내고 있는데,,
체인점에 노벨상 수상자들 좀 넣고, 미국 본교에
3학년부터 수강 가능 뭐 이렇게 말입니다.
ex) MIT 서울점
